rawgabbit 14 hours ago

I have been following this story. It is tragic with many dead and missing. The worst hit is a summer camp for girls called Camp Mystic in Hunt TX.

This is Texas Hill Country with limestone hills & cliffs and chalky clay soil and the Guadaloupe River cuts through it. It had been undergoing severe drought and the land was baked hard like in an oven. That is it couldn’t absorb the rainwater and flooding quickly developed. The news reported the first flood watch was issued around 1:30 in the afternoon but the “considerable” tag that triggers cell phone alerts was not issued until around 1:00 in the morning. The river crested around 4:00 in the morning. It was reported the river rose 20 feet and dragged houses, cars, and people with it.

erulabs 16 hours ago

There are times you can politicize an issue. A flood that killed a bunch of young kids at a summer camp is not one of them.

Articles like this do more harm than good. Either you already believe climate change is an issue and this changes nothing, or you don’t and this looks like exactly the sort of politicization that a denier supposes the entire global warming issue to be. You gain no allies and you galvanize opponents. I wouldn’t care if it was ineffective but it’s actually destructive.

The article starts by blaming lack of personnel, then goes on to say this community gets warnings day and night and gets alarm fatigue. The real issue is “weather is horribly hard to predict”, but we don’t get to any of this before speculation about blame. Every word drips with desire to blame, and virtually no sorrow at the tragedy is to be found.

  • _fs 15 hours ago

    > There are times you can politicize an issue. A flood that killed a bunch of young kids at a summer camp is not one of them.

    This is the same argument that is made after every single school shooting in America. How dare we seek solutions after tragedy. Lets just stick to thoughts and prayers

    • erulabs 15 hours ago

      If the full summary of your recommendation on problems like private property and weather prediction is “you should have voted for my team”, youre not actually participating in solving the issue.

      Did we understaff? Did we cause alarm fatigue? Can the states systems be upgraded? A true investigation into the issue would be great. This is not that.

giardini 15 hours ago

I live in TX too and TX is doing fine. Sure some new arrivals are getting flushed but we've got rattlesnakes, black widows, tarantulas, and cactus too! Don't buy the first home you see on a beautiful Texas river though, b/c we also have real estate developers who buy riverside land cheap, build homes on it, sell them and and then disappear.

Geography and location are the causes of flooding in Texas' "Flash Flood Alley", not global warming. Here's how:

"Why Texas Hill Country, where a devastating flood killed dozens, is one of the deadliest places in the US for flash flooding"

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/texas-hill-...

k310 15 hours ago

More denial and blaming. The cult is relentlessly programmed by RW media, aided by Russian bots.

As long as they have leverage (primaries) over legislators in mostly "safe" or gerrymandered districts, there will only be societal collapse.

Solutions?

kgwxd 16 hours ago

Neither could the effectiveness of vaccines, or what taking away abortion rights would do, or what lax gun control leads to, or what privatizing critical infrastructure would do to cost, etc., etc. It can, and will, absolutely, be denied until the general population becomes much less stupid.